Bug #35801 for bind9-public: command-line namespace collision: "delve"

Thu, 17 Apr 2014 20:55:15 -0400 Robert Edmonds <edmonds@debian.org> - Ticket created

CC:	lamont@debian.org
Subject:	command-line namespace collision: "delve"
Date:	Thu, 17 Apr 2014 20:55:09 -0400
To:	bind9-bugs@isc.org
From:	Robert Edmonds <edmonds@debian.org>

Hi, Per the BIND 9.10.0rc1 release notes: "delve" (domain entity lookup and validation engine) is a new tool with dig-like semantics for looking up DNS data and performing internal DNSSEC validation. This allows easy validation in environments where the resolver may not be trustworthy, and assists with troubleshooting of DNSSEC problems. [RT #32406] Unfortunately, there is already a "delve" command shipped by the Xapian project. This will cause a conflict for Linux distributions like Debian and Ubuntu; two different packages cannot both ship a "/usr/bin/delve" file without conflicting. (Per Debian policy, since the commands have completely different functionality, one of them would have to be renamed.) I recommend that ISC rename the "delve" command. Or perhaps negotiate with the Xapian project for the rights to the "delve" command name :-) -- Robert Edmonds edmonds@debian.org

Sun, 20 Apr 2014 10:23:24 -0400 Francis Dupont <Francis_Dupont@isc.org> - Status changed from 'new' to 'open'

Mon, 21 Apr 2014 18:19:52 -0400 Chuck Aurora <chucka@isc.org> - Correspondence added

Subject:	Re: [ISC-Bugs #35801] command-line namespace collision: "delve"
Date:	Mon, 21 Apr 2014 17:19:57 -0500
To:	bind9-bugs@isc.org
From:	Chuck Aurora <chucka@isc.org>

On 04/17/2014 07:55 PM, Robert Edmonds via RT wrote: > Per the BIND 9.10.0rc1 release notes: > > "delve" (domain entity lookup and validation engine) is a new > tool with dig-like semantics for looking up DNS data and performing > internal DNSSEC validation. This allows easy validation in > environments where the resolver may not be trustworthy, and > assists with troubleshooting of DNSSEC problems. [RT #32406] > > Unfortunately, there is already a "delve" command shipped by the Xapian > project. This will cause a conflict for Linux distributions like Debian > and Ubuntu; two different packages cannot both ship a "/usr/bin/delve" > file without conflicting. (Per Debian policy, since the commands have > completely different functionality, one of them would have to be > renamed.) > > I recommend that ISC rename the "delve" command. Or perhaps negotiate > with the Xapian project for the rights to the "delve" command name :-) Thank you for the report. Indeed we do like the "delve" name for numerous reasons, and we have approached the Xapian project to discuss it: http://lists.xapian.org/pipermail/xapian-devel/2014-April/002399.html We'll keep you posted. -- Chuck Aurora : ISC Software Support : chucka@isc.org Internet Systems Consortium, Inc.

Wed, 23 Apr 2014 14:22:21 -0400 Evan Hunt <Evan_Hunt@isc.org> - Correspondence added

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lamont@debian.org

Hi Robert, > Unfortunately, there is already a "delve" command shipped by the Xapian > project. This will cause a conflict for Linux distributions like Debian > and Ubuntu; two different packages cannot both ship a "/usr/bin/delve" > file without conflicting. (Per Debian policy, since the commands have > completely different functionality, one of them would have to be > renamed.) > > I recommend that ISC rename the "delve" command. Or perhaps negotiate > with the Xapian project for the rights to the "delve" command name :-) Thank you for timely information. We did send a query to Xapian to find out how delighted they'd be to move theirs to /usr/sbin or /usr/share/xapian, and regrettably (though not unexpectedly) the answer was "not very". So I'm renaming the tool to "delv"; if there are any existing uses of that name, google hasn't told me about it. If you know of one I missed, please let me know.

Wed, 23 Apr 2014 20:57:54 -0400 Evan Hunt <Evan_Hunt@isc.org> - Status changed from 'open' to 'resolved'

Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:10:28 -0400 LaMont Jones <lamont@debian.org> - Correspondence added

CC:	lamont@debian.org
Subject:	Re: [ISC-Bugs #35801] command-line namespace collision: "delve"
Date:	Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:10:19 -0600
To:	Evan Hunt via RT <bind9-bugs@isc.org>
From:	LaMont Jones <lamont@debian.org>

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 06:22:22PM +0000, Evan Hunt via RT wrote: > Thank you for timely information. We did send a query to Xapian to find out > how delighted they'd be to move theirs to /usr/sbin or /usr/share/xapian, > and regrettably (though not unexpectedly) the answer was "not very". heh > So I'm renaming the tool to "delv"; if there are any existing uses of > that name, google hasn't told me about it. If you know of one I missed, > please let me know. FWIW, http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sid/Contents-amd64.gz is the current manifest of files delivered by Debian (for unstable on amd64 -- similar names for other releases and architectures), with filename and the package(s) that deliver the file. Policy then defines whether or not the collisions are bugs, or expected. lamont

Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:10:28 -0400 The RT System itself - Status changed from 'resolved' to 'open'

Fri, 25 Apr 2014 10:42:31 -0400 Evan Hunt <Evan_Hunt@isc.org> - Status changed from 'open' to 'resolved'

Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:00:32 -0400 Vicky Risk <vicky@isc.org> - Queue changed from #6 to bind9-public

Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:00:32 -0400 Vicky Risk <vicky@isc.org> - Area feature added

Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:00:32 -0400 Vicky Risk <vicky@isc.org> - Version Fixed 9.10.0 added

Created:	Thu, 17 Apr 2014 20:55:15 -0400
Updated:	Mon, 10 Jul 2017 14:00:32 -0400
Closed:	Fri, 25 Apr 2014 10:42:31 -0400

Bug #35801 for bind9-public: command-line namespace collision: "delve"

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