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9.9.12, 9.10.7, 9.11.3, 9.12.0
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Created:Fri, 14 Jul 2017 19:42:34 -0400
Updated:Wed, 02 Aug 2017 20:38:10 -0400
Closed:Fri, 28 Jul 2017 15:30:18 -0400



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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 19:41:46 -0400
To: bind-bugs@isc.org
From: "Jeremy Bicha" <jbicha@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Modernize 'dig' acronym expansion
I believe the acronym for 'dig' is needlessly sexual and offensive. Let's update the acronym. Compare these definitions: https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/groper https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/getter I have a patch I'll submit once a bug number has been assigned. Thanks, Jeremy Bicha
Subject: Re: [ISC-Bugs #45559] AutoReply: Modernize 'dig' acronym expansion
To: bind9-confidential@isc.org
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 19:58:44 -0400
From: "Jeremy Bicha" <jbicha@ubuntu.com>
Patch attached. Thanks, Jeremy Bicha

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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 18:01:10 +0200
To: bind9-confidential@isc.org
Subject: Re: [ISC-Bugs #45559] Modernize 'dig' acronym expansion
From: "Victoria Risk" <vicky@isc.org>
I thought the G in DIG  stood for ‘grepper’ as in to use the grep utility.

Am I wrong?

On Jul 15, 2017, at 1:42 AM, Jeremy Bicha via RT <bind9-confidential@isc.org> wrote:


Fri Jul 14 23:42:34 2017: Request 45559 was acted upon.
Transaction: Ticket created by jbicha@ubuntu.com
      Queue: bind9-confidential
    Subject: Modernize 'dig' acronym expansion
      Owner: Nobody
 Requestors: jbicha@ubuntu.com
     Status: new
Ticket <URL: https://bugs.isc.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=45559 >
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I believe the acronym for 'dig' is needlessly sexual and offensive.
Let's update the acronym.

Compare these definitions:
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/groper
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/getter

I have a patch I'll submit once a bug number has been assigned.

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha



Victoria Risk
Internet Systems Consortium





From: "Jeremy Bicha" <jbicha@ubuntu.com>
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:13:00 -0400
To: bind9-confidential@isc.org
Subject: Re: [ISC-Bugs #45559] Modernize 'dig' acronym expansion
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 12:01 PM, Vicky Risk via RT <bind9-confidential@isc.org> wrote: > I thought the G in DIG stood for ‘grepper’ as in to use the grep utility. That's not what the documentation says. :( https://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.11/doc/arm/man.dig.html Thanks, Jeremy Bicha
To: "Vicky Risk via RT" <bind9-confidential@isc.org>
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 18:15:42 +0000
CC:
From: "Evan Hunt" <each@isc.org>
Subject: Re: [ISC-Bugs #45559] Modernize 'dig' acronym expansion
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 04:01:26PM +0000, Vicky Risk via RT wrote: > I thought the G in DIG stood for ‘grepper’ as in to use the grep utility. > > Am I wrong? Jeremy is correct; it is documented as "groper". The first version of "dig" was written a long time ago, and while the word "grope" has taken on some new connotations in US English in the decades since then, I believe it was always intended in the dictionary sense of "feeling around blindly in the dark". I'm not particularly enthusiastic about revising history because what was at the time a slang usage has become commonplace, but Jeremy isn't the first person to complain about it, either. Maybe we just don't need to expand the abbreviation in the man page anymore.
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2017 14:37:50 -0400
To: bind9-confidential@isc.org
From: "Jeremy Bicha" <jbicha@ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [ISC-Bugs #45559] Modernize 'dig' acronym expansion
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 2:15 PM, Evan Hunt via RT <bind9-confidential@isc.org> wrote: > Maybe we just don't need to expand the abbreviation in the man page anymore. That's fine with me too. 'dig' doesn't need to be an acronym in my opinion. On the other hand, it will be a bit easier to start cleaning up all the references to the (old) acronym expansion if either a new acronym was used or if there was an official public announcement that 'dig' is no longer an acronym. Thanks, Jeremy
To: bind9-confidential@isc.org
From: "Mark Andrews" <marka@isc.org>
Subject: Re: [ISC-Bugs #45559] Modernize 'dig' acronym expansion
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:48:47 +1000
In message <rt-4.4.1-77099-1500142545-845.45559-4-0@isc.org>, "Evan Hunt via RT" writes: > On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 04:01:26PM +0000, Vicky Risk via RT wrote: > > I thought the G in DIG stood for ‘grepper’ as in to use the grep utility. > > > > Am I wrong? > > Jeremy is correct; it is documented as "groper". The first version > of "dig" was written a long time ago, and while the word "grope" has taken > on some new connotations in US English in the decades since then, I believe > it was always intended in the dictionary sense of "feeling around blindly > in the dark". > > I'm not particularly enthusiastic about revising history because what was > at the time a slang usage has become commonplace, but Jeremy isn't the > first person to complain about it, either. Maybe we just don't need to > expand the abbreviation in the man page anymore. Removing the definition *is* re-writting history. That is how it is done. Things that you don't want to be known are just not said anymore. Instead add a [1] to groper and put the definition of the word in the man page. "[1] Definition: One who feels around blindly in the dark, searches for answers." This is just as important as the D in BIND meaning Domain, not Daemon. Gropers are also a type of fish. Google for Sydney Groper / Blue Groper. -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
The acronym expansions for both dig and delv are no longer mentioned in the documentation. No CHANGES note. Resolving.